Comments on: Web Dev Hand Tools Revisited http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/ Don Park's Personal Blog Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:18:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: donpark http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/#comment-483 donpark Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:55:53 +0000 http://blog.docuverse.com/?p=112#comment-483 Hi Valeri. Yeah, Ext should be used with a ten-foot pole. Not everything glitzy is fun to open up and play with. Re Ruby, I like the language but, unlike PHP which is just a tool, it's more of a religion meaning one has to dive into it fully to get the most use out of it. Also, I had difficulty 'seeing' the flow of control with all the fancy gears hidden behind overly open language syntax. I consider Java's 'annotation attributes' a cursed blessing but it at least sits on the side of code where Ruby is more of a wild open house party IMHO. Hi Valeri. Yeah, Ext should be used with a ten-foot pole. Not everything glitzy is fun to open up and play with.

Re Ruby, I like the language but, unlike PHP which is just a tool, it’s more of a religion meaning one has to dive into it fully to get the most use out of it. Also, I had difficulty ‘seeing’ the flow of control with all the fancy gears hidden behind overly open language syntax. I consider Java’s ‘annotation attributes’ a cursed blessing but it at least sits on the side of code where Ruby is more of a wild open house party IMHO.

]]> By: Valeri Bogdanov http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/#comment-482 Valeri Bogdanov Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:22:32 +0000 http://blog.docuverse.com/?p=112#comment-482 About Ext - I was impressed by the amount of widgets it offered ... until I saw the underlying mess it creates. That really turned me off. About the server side language - have you considered using Ruby? While I don't have exp. in RoR I really liked working with Ruby (for a very short period :( ) About Ext – I was impressed by the amount of widgets it offered … until I saw the underlying mess it creates. That really turned me off.

About the server side language – have you considered using Ruby? While I don’t have exp. in RoR I really liked working with Ruby (for a very short period :( )

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]]> By: donpark http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/#comment-480 donpark Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:39:11 +0000 http://blog.docuverse.com/?p=112#comment-480 Peter, Yo! How is iWidgets doing in the shitstorm? Uri, Jaxer is handy for scraping but no third party libraries to speak of so one has to build everything in JavaScript or callout to web services which obviously won't work at all levels. BTW, I am still not settled on using PHP yet. All the bleeping choices (framework, template engine, etc) I have to make based on either outdated or half-baked info/hype/hate out there is giving me unnecessary headache. Peter, Yo! How is iWidgets doing in the shitstorm?

Uri, Jaxer is handy for scraping but no third party libraries to speak of so one has to build everything in JavaScript or callout to web services which obviously won’t work at all levels.

BTW, I am still not settled on using PHP yet. All the bleeping choices (framework, template engine, etc) I have to make based on either outdated or half-baked info/hype/hate out there is giving me unnecessary headache.

]]> By: Uri Sarid http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/#comment-478 Uri Sarid Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:56:51 +0000 http://blog.docuverse.com/?p=112#comment-478 Nice brief analysis of the technology choices... I'm curious, if you're thinking of using Jaxer for the back end, why would you use PHP at all rather than do everything in JavaScript (and DHTML) end to end? Nice brief analysis of the technology choices… I’m curious, if you’re thinking of using Jaxer for the back end, why would you use PHP at all rather than do everything in JavaScript (and DHTML) end to end?

]]> By: Peter Yared http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/#comment-477 Peter Yared Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:59:21 +0000 http://blog.docuverse.com/?p=112#comment-477 hey don, yeah we use jquery as well and are very pleased. it is so clean and is continually maturing. cheers, py hey don, yeah we use jquery as well and are very pleased. it is so clean and is continually maturing. cheers, py

]]> By: donpark http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/#comment-474 donpark Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:20:00 +0000 http://blog.docuverse.com/?p=112#comment-474 Kevin, we tried using it but ran into integration issues (I haven't confirmed it myself but I trust the engineer who worked on it) while trying to graft it onto existing code. I will take a look at it again later to see if those issues have eased. BTW, I am unhappy coding or writing in any language. It's just my nature. ;-p Kevin, we tried using it but ran into integration issues (I haven’t confirmed it myself but I trust the engineer who worked on it) while trying to graft it onto existing code. I will take a look at it again later to see if those issues have eased.

BTW, I am unhappy coding or writing in any language. It’s just my nature. ;-p

]]> By: Kevin Marks http://blog.docuverse.com/2009/01/14/web-dev-hand-tools-revisited/#comment-473 Kevin Marks Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:58:31 +0000 http://blog.docuverse.com/?p=112#comment-473 Don, if you're happy writing Java, you may find Google Web Toolkit a good way to do web dev: http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/ It does a nice job of bridging the server-side and client-side objects smoothly. Don, if you’re happy writing Java, you may find Google Web Toolkit a good way to do web dev:
http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/
It does a nice job of bridging the server-side and client-side objects smoothly.

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